tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post6121183767928963165..comments2023-10-24T07:38:03.444-04:00Comments on eFoodAlert.com: It's A Dog's Breakfast - Part 2: Common MisconceptionsPhyllis Ehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18426014057471290677noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-28564651919682460802008-03-16T19:02:00.000-04:002008-03-16T19:02:00.000-04:00As a courtesy to all readers, I request that every...As a courtesy to all readers, I request that everyone identify himself or herself at least with some random initials so that a train of thought can be maintained. I have not blocked Anonymous posting, but I have enabled my moderation option and will block any individual posts that do not contain at least a minimal level of identification.<BR/><BR/>Phyllis Entis, MSc., SM(NRM)Phyllis Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426014057471290677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-39149870107794498672008-03-16T10:57:00.000-04:002008-03-16T10:57:00.000-04:00To M.A.I agree. It is not raw. But 140F is also no...To M.A.<BR/><BR/>I agree. It is not raw. But 140F is also not enough to ensure destruction of pathogens. For example, when preparing jerky, USDA recommends cooking the meat first to a temperature of 160F before dehydrating at 140F. Here's the link to the USDA recommendations.<BR/>http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Fact_Sheets/Jerky_and_Food_Safety/index.asp<BR/><BR/>These recommendations are based on Phyllis Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426014057471290677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-1272276027743778442008-03-16T10:25:00.000-04:002008-03-16T10:25:00.000-04:00Food dehydrators work by removing moisture from fo...Food dehydrators work by removing moisture from food by heating them at 140 degrees Farenheit. That is certainly not raw. -M.AAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-54120866801605126282008-03-16T09:22:00.000-04:002008-03-16T09:22:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Phyllis Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426014057471290677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-31269360502019557612008-03-16T07:57:00.000-04:002008-03-16T07:57:00.000-04:00Just because something has been dehydrated does no...Just because something has been dehydrated does not mean that it has been cooked.Phyllis Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426014057471290677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-36364405219776133212008-03-15T21:45:00.000-04:002008-03-15T21:45:00.000-04:00bully sticks and pig ears are sold dehydrated, not...bully sticks and pig ears are sold dehydrated, not raw....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-85297414399311740582008-03-15T20:24:00.000-04:002008-03-15T20:24:00.000-04:00Here is a link to the full text of the article men...Here is a link to the full text of the article mentioned in the most recent comment posted by Anonymous.<BR/><BR/>http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/500211<BR/><BR/>I encourage everyone to read it in full and draw their own conclusions. The pet treats mentioned in the article are NOT kibble - they are natural (and not cooked or sterilized) treats, including bully sticks, pig ears, Phyllis Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426014057471290677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-18350474354219000842008-03-15T19:59:00.000-04:002008-03-15T19:59:00.000-04:00Another research case of raw fed dogs NOT spreadin...Another research case of raw fed dogs NOT spreading salmonella to their human feeders. No known cases of raw feeders catching salmonella. Though treats and kibble are often sources of salmonella once again.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Finley R, Reid-Smith R, Weese JS.<BR/>Foodborne, Waterborne, and Zoonotic Infections Division, Public Health Agency of Canada, Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Rita_Finley@Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-52468608619683978502008-03-15T19:22:00.000-04:002008-03-15T19:22:00.000-04:00About Giardia.Your 1995 reference is a bit out of ...About Giardia.<BR/><BR/>Your 1995 reference is a bit out of date. Please see the following:<BR/><BR/>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15940523?ordinalpos=16&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum<BR/>"In this study, genotype A was associated with samples from children and dogs, and, therefore, we could infer zoonotic transmission as a way of getting the disease."Phyllis Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426014057471290677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-89263733322360369702008-03-15T18:41:00.001-04:002008-03-15T18:41:00.001-04:00Another research case of raw fed dogs NOT spreadin...Another research case of raw fed dogs NOT spreading salmonella to their human feeders. No known cases of raw feeders catching salmonella. Though treats and kibble are often sources of salmonella once again.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Finley R, Reid-Smith R, Weese JS.<BR/>Foodborne, Waterborne, and Zoonotic Infections Division, Public Health Agency of Canada, Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Rita_Finley@Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-47093816568487459292008-03-15T18:41:00.000-04:002008-03-15T18:41:00.000-04:00Another research case of raw fed dogs NOT spreadin...Another research case of raw fed dogs NOT spreading salmonella to their human feeders. No known cases of raw feeders catching salmonella. Though treats and kibble are often sources of salmonella once again.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Finley R, Reid-Smith R, Weese JS.<BR/>Foodborne, Waterborne, and Zoonotic Infections Division, Public Health Agency of Canada, Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Rita_Finley@Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-7544147044946418332008-03-15T18:21:00.000-04:002008-03-15T18:21:00.000-04:00Ms Entis what you are saying about giardia passing...Ms Entis what you are saying about giardia passing to humans also seems unsubstantiated unless you have other sources. The strains found in humans and animals have not been proven to be the same.<BR/><BR/>Early in 1995, the kennel population of more than 100 dogs at the Guide Dogs for the Blind Association's Midlands Regional Centre in Leamington Spa was hit by an unusually severe outbreak of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-46579568078314814802008-03-15T18:08:00.000-04:002008-03-15T18:08:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-78400348021833134472008-03-15T18:02:00.000-04:002008-03-15T18:02:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-68375929017994858632008-03-15T11:40:00.000-04:002008-03-15T11:40:00.000-04:00I shall be very happy to respond to the people who...I shall be very happy to respond to the people who have taken the time to comment on my blog series. I prefer to wait until all five parts of the series are posted, so that I can consolidate the comments and responses in one or more follow-up posts. This is to avoid repetition.<BR/><BR/>I will respond to one question though - regarding book vs. blog.<BR/><BR/>I was invited by my publisher to Phyllis Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18426014057471290677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-8964899651861499322008-03-15T10:26:00.000-04:002008-03-15T10:26:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-14703692098428258362008-03-15T01:36:00.000-04:002008-03-15T01:36:00.000-04:00Why is this a blog where your previous book was a ...Why is this a blog where your previous book was a peer reviewed publication? Those reviews seemed to indicated the writing was a novelized version leaving the sensationized idea that the food industry was out to get the consumer. It sounded like the brave researcher versus the world type of thing Jean Auel would write. This blog appears the same in sensationalizing fear among the raw feeding Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-38860970778888755822008-03-15T01:10:00.000-04:002008-03-15T01:10:00.000-04:00Would you name your research sources please? I ca...Would you name your research sources please? I can't find any data that supports what you've written. <BR/><BR/>See article dry food recall contaminated with salmonella [L=http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/mars08_07.html]http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/mars08_07.html[/L] in 2007<BR/><BR/>Another recall of salmonella contaminated dry dog food [L=http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-20841116045570002802008-03-15T00:16:00.000-04:002008-03-15T00:16:00.000-04:00I can't find ANY research including the CDC that s...I can't find ANY research including the CDC that supports what you are saying. The only thing that supports what you are saying is the billions of dollars spent on commercial kibble every year by the public. <BR/><BR/>The CDC lists all cases of salmonella contamination as ingested or food born, unless feces is ingested it seems raw feeding is an unlikely source. When 80% of the human food Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-3118811108837791162008-03-12T19:23:00.000-04:002008-03-12T19:23:00.000-04:00"And, just like Typhoid Mary, apparently healthy d...<I><B>"And, just like Typhoid Mary</B>, apparently healthy dogs can shed Salmonella in their feces. Furthermore, Salmonella isn’t the only pathogenic microbe that can infect dogs. Campylobacter, which is prevalent in raw poultry, can also be carried by dogs. Parasites such as Giardia can be spread from dogs to humans, too. I'll provide specific examples in Part 3 of this series."</I><BR/>--------Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-5077828926972045502008-03-12T19:22:00.000-04:002008-03-12T19:22:00.000-04:00So, why is it many dogs eat poop (their own and ot...So, why is it many dogs eat poop (their own and other animals') and do not suffer any adverse effects? I don't think ou need to convence anybody that feces contain a lot of pathogens. My brother's dog is a case in point. This small dog eats his and the cat's poop as often as he could get away with it - and yet, has never suffered so much as a tummy ache from the nasty habit. This dog is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-91681459205644077552008-03-12T18:50:00.000-04:002008-03-12T18:50:00.000-04:00So, how come dogs eat poop (theirs and other anima...So, how come dogs eat poop (theirs and other animals) and do not seem to be adversely affected by the nasty habit? Feces as we all know is loaded wth all kinds of pathogens. My brother's dog would eat their cat's poop whenever he could - and that dog has never come down with any GI upset! And he is a small dog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-33249903793631715802008-03-12T18:15:00.000-04:002008-03-12T18:15:00.000-04:00The information on this blog seems like vested int...The information on this blog seems like vested interest fear-mongering to me. I have fed raw to my dogs for years and have found only benefits to my dog's health. I was so glad that I was not feeding processed pet food to my dog during the 2006-2006 recalls. I still am. If you want to split hairs over the 'science' of raw-feeding, be my guest.<BR/><BR/>However, it would be a politcal mistake Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-29617882169277208732008-03-12T16:46:00.000-04:002008-03-12T16:46:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.onegsphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14200949328357909621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6271527213708726243.post-64306412572577738532008-03-12T15:09:00.000-04:002008-03-12T15:09:00.000-04:00Anonymous is correct - kibble fed dogs can contrac...Anonymous is correct - kibble fed dogs can contract salmonella from their food. One of the many recent pet food scares was due to this issue. The media mentioned many times that this was a danger to humans. Anonymous is also correct that proper hand washing should be practiced after cleaning up dog waste. Finally, pets can pick up many "yuckies" like giardia, worms, and/or bacteria from Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01503076487744459981noreply@blogger.com